{"id":4234,"date":"2018-10-05T09:01:06","date_gmt":"2018-10-05T08:01:06","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.longkeshinsideout.co.uk\/?p=4234"},"modified":"2018-10-05T09:01:06","modified_gmt":"2018-10-05T08:01:06","slug":"no-more-than-300-of-the-dead-were-terrorists-a-ratio-of-three-to-one-that-is-why-we-are-still-there","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.longkeshinsideout.co.uk\/?p=4234","title":{"rendered":"\u201cNo more than 300 [of the dead] were terrorists, a ratio of three to one. That is why we are still there\u201d."},"content":{"rendered":"<p><a href=\"http:\/\/www.longkeshinsideout.co.uk\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/10\/kelly.png\"><img decoding=\"async\" loading=\"lazy\" class=\"alignleft size-medium wp-image-4235\" title=\"kelly\" src=\"http:\/\/www.longkeshinsideout.co.uk\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/10\/kelly-300x162.png\" alt=\"\" width=\"300\" height=\"162\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.longkeshinsideout.co.uk\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/10\/kelly-300x162.png 300w, https:\/\/www.longkeshinsideout.co.uk\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/10\/kelly-1024x554.png 1024w, https:\/\/www.longkeshinsideout.co.uk\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/10\/kelly.png 1310w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 300px) 100vw, 300px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p>Bizarre tragicomic episode yesterday on the legacy issue which reveals the <em><span style=\"color: #3a3a3a;\">politics-on-stilts<\/span><\/em> nature\u00a0of the discourse around legacy, demonstrates SF intolerance of questions that undermine their own contention that the 1700 plus killings by the Provisionals \u201cdon\u2019t count\u201d.<!--more--><\/p>\n<p>When<a href=\"https:\/\/www.irishtimes.com\/news\/ireland\/irish-news\/british-were-main-troubles-protagonist-sinn-f%C3%A9in-claims-1.3650528\"> Gerry Moriarty merely pressed them<\/a> on that point the <a href=\"https:\/\/www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk\/news\/northern-ireland\/watch-sinn-fein-claims-that-uk-government-was-main-troubles-protagonist-37382071.html\">whole presser appeared to collapse<\/a>\u00a0(VIDEO, <em><span style=\"color: #3a3a3a;\">BelTe<\/span><\/em>l) under the weight of its own, apparently unconsidered, internal contradictions.<\/p>\n<p>Here\u2019s Gerry probing firstly Michelle, then Gerry Kelly, then Michelle again\u2026<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>When further pressed on how Sinn F\u00e9in could stand over describing the British government as the main conflict protagonist, he replied, \u201cThey were the main protagonists. They are a government. They had 31,000 troops here, they had a standing army of some 150,000. So it is not unreasonable to say that they were the main protagonist,\u201d he said.<\/p>\n<p>When asked about the casualties caused by the IRA, Ms O\u2019Neill interjected to say people \u201ccould spend all day getting into the conversation you want to have\u201d or they could engage in building bridges and healing the wounds of the past.<\/p>\n<p>\u201cThat is what we are about,\u201d she added. \u201cThis is about trying to move this forward, about trying to give families access to mechanisms that they have been demanding time and time again.\u201d<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>With such overwhelming odds, the real question to be asked of Ms O\u2019Neill\u2019s new found enthusiasm\u00a0for building bridges, is that why the Provisionals ever believed they could turn the Brits over militarily? [<em><span style=\"color: #3a3a3a;\">Or what bridges she thought they\u2019d been building? \u2013 Ed<\/span><\/em>]<\/p>\n<p>Perhaps they believed the Kitson counterinsurgency handbook the British were clearly following at the start, with the Falls Curfew, Internment, Ballymurphy and Bloody Sunday, would eventually justify their long war. If so, it proved a false premise.<\/p>\n<p>As <a href=\"https:\/\/www.globaldashboard.org\/2007\/04\/29\/van-crevelds-lessons-of-northern-ireland\/\">Alex Evans noted on Global Dashboard back in 2009<\/a>, from the early to mid-70s onwards the British switched to a long defensive with the result that the insurgents did most of the civilian damage (the largest single group of casualties, security forces being next largest).<\/p>\n<p>In conversation with a retired British colonel, Evans recalled him saying that:<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>Of the three thousand, about seventeen hundred were civilians\u2026.of the remaining, a thousand were British soldiers [sic]. No more than three hundred were terrorists, a ratio of three to one. Speaking very softly, he said: <strong>\u201cAnd that is why we are still there\u201d<\/strong>.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<div style=\"padding-bottom:20px; padding-top:10px;\" ><!-- Hupso Share Buttons - http:\/\/www.hupso.com\/share\/ --><a class=\"hupso_toolbar\" href=\"http:\/\/www.hupso.com\/share\/\"><img src=\"http:\/\/static.hupso.com\/share\/buttons\/share-medium.png\" border=\"0\" style=\"padding-top:5px; float:left;\" alt=\"Share\"\/><\/a><script type=\"text\/javascript\">var hupso_services_t=new Array(\"Twitter\",\"Facebook\",\"Google Plus\",\"Linkedin\",\"StumbleUpon\",\"Digg\",\"Reddit\",\"Bebo\",\"Delicious\"); var hupso_toolbar_size_t=\"medium\";var hupso_counters_lang=\"en_US\";var hupso_title_t=\"\u201cNo more than 300 [of the dead] were terrorists, a ratio of three to one. 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